[00:00:00] Adeel: Tania, welcome to the podcast. Good to have you here. Thank you

[00:00:04] Tania: for having me. Having me here. So it's really nice to be here.

[00:00:08] Adeel: Yeah. Do you wanna tell us where, I guess where are you located?

[00:00:13] Tania: Right now I'm living in Helsinki in Finland, but I grew up in Barcelona, in Spain. Okay. Yeah, I've been here for 10 years.

[00:00:22] Adeel: Okay. And what do you do up there in Heinke?

[00:00:25] Tania: So I just gra graduated from university with my master's degree. And, but right now I'm working as a translator from home.

I'm mostly home all

[00:00:35] Adeel: day yeah. Is that you, do you want, is translation being a translator, something your you kinda went to school for, wanna make a career out of it? Or has it just been. Why you've been studying?

[00:00:46] Tania: It goes both ways. So I sta I studied Scandinavian languages and nothing to do with translation, but it just felt natural to me to translate from Finn and sew to, yeah, to cut on.

[00:00:59] Adeel: Yeah. And working from home was it something that you were doing even before Covid?

[00:01:09] Tania: Yeah, I did.

[00:01:11] Adeel: Gotcha. And was it any chance the kind of misophonia related decision to, to work from home? So I

[00:01:18] Tania: knew you would asked this and I have to say, I don't know. There's no way to know it. Maybe, but I also think it has to do with the fact that I'm an introvert so maybe both things have something to do with it. I dunno. So it wasn't, I know. No, but I know I wouldn't be able to work in an office, for example,

[00:01:38] Adeel: Oh, do have you had experiences in the past? No, but I can imagine, yeah. Okay, gotcha. , yeah, you've probably listened to enough of these episodes to know that yeah, it's can be a disaster.

guess it also depends on kind of your coworkers as well. Sometimes they're very accommodating, but okay, great. And and how was. Actually maybe, yeah. Do you wanna maybe go back to a life in Barcelona? Is that kind of where you started to notice miso symptoms

[00:02:05] Tania: growing up?

Oh yes. So I, I have to say, I have no triggers when it comes with people. I don't know. I, the only people who trigger me are family and then now my husband here in Finland. Strange. Just never trigger me except if it has something to do with I don't know, chewing gum in class or something, really rude.

But yeah, so my first trigger was my dad, and I remember sometime when I was maybe eight years old, I think, I can't re, I can't remember. I noticed, just noticed. , my dad made some weird noises when drinking water. Or anything. So I remember telling him, Hey it's interesting how you make this sound when you drink.

And he didn't really mind this comment, but I remember it went from simply not seeing this sound. Being in full rage within a few days. Oh,

[00:03:13] Adeel: really?

[00:03:14] Tania: Okay. Yeah. I dunno what happened but I remember my dad notices that something was wrong with me or , that something was up. Yeah. So I remember that during the weekends I used to wake up very early to watch some cartoons on tv.

. this one morning my dad came with his breakfast. It was some milk and cereal and I got up from sofa to go back to my room and so he said no. You have to stay with me until I've eaten. So then he ate his breakfast. I was forced to be next to him. And then when he was done eating, he said, okay, now you can.

So

[00:03:56] Adeel: Was that just to spend time with you or was that to like to force you to take the sounds? I'm curious, why

[00:04:03] Tania: It was forced me to take the sound cause he knew I wanted to leave because he was going to.

[00:04:09] Adeel: Yeah. Did he, was it it wasn't any like malice, was it like, just Hey, maybe I'll, maybe you'll get used to the sounds.

Was that kind of the, do you know if that was the reasoning or was it in fact too, a little bit maybe torturing? I'd say that

[00:04:23] Tania: I dunno back then. But if I look at the entire history, even nowaday nowadays, they my parents mock me and tease me. So I think there might have been some mals when he forced me to, ah, they,

[00:04:35] Adeel: okay.

Gotcha. Okay, so you've, so obviously you've been suffering this for a long time and it's , the pattern has just been. not taking it seriously. Obviously there's still no gotcha. How do you have siblings as well? No, I'm a only child. Okay, gotcha. Did your mom start to trigger you as well?

Did the number of triggers start to expand?

[00:04:57] Tania: That's interesting. My mom is the only one who doesn't trigger me. I don't know why. As a child I would at lunch with my grandparents. And my grandma triggered me a little bit, not so much, but my grandpa used to slur soup really loud. So I remember telling him to please stop doing that because I knew he was 65 at the time and I knew he was in full physical capacity to eat soup with manners. But something that's interesting. , he got diagnosed with Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease, and when that happened, the trigger went away because I knew he just couldn't stop making that sound.

[00:05:41] Adeel: Gotcha. So your brain was able, interesting how your your yeah. Your brain's able to turn triggers on and. Kind a little bit more. Yeah. Flexibly than I've heard in other situations. I'm sure this is not unheard of, but it's, yeah, it's interesting. This is a little bit different than the norm.

Obviously a lot of overlap with the norm. And so your mom, yeah. Wow. Your mom never triggered you. Okay. And so how did your parents start to react against Grup? You said, they weren't taking it seriously, but. , were they both equally? Dismissing it? Was it dismissal? Was it constant mockery?

[00:06:15] Tania: It was both mockery and then also they reacted in a very aggressive way whenever. Oh. Okay. Let's say we had dinner together and. Because I wasn't allowed to leave, my reaction would be to leave. So I wasn't allowed to do that. So I would press my fingers in my ears. Yeah. And so my mom would grab my arm and yell take your hands off your ears.

And that would happen every day, many times a day. So that was the normal reaction for

[00:06:48] Adeel: them. So that's obviously. Oh, what kind of what age, like when ages did it start again? Like the usual, Oh, eight years old. Yeah, eight years old. Okay. So how did you handle that? Must have been emotional.

[00:07:02] Tania: Yeah, it was really stressing. I just ate as, as fast as I could and then left, but yeah.

[00:07:12] Adeel: So you had to, but then you had to, did you have to stay while they were eating too? Or no. Once you were done, you were able to leave.

[00:07:19] Tania: So I, when I was done, I was able to leave. Okay. Yeah.

[00:07:22] Adeel: Okay. Yeah. Then I would be natural to just try to, yeah.

Eat as fast as you can. Did you try to explain Oh, something? Yeah. , sorry. No, please tell me. Yeah, you're saying something else.

[00:07:33] Tania: No I was just going to say that I actually tried to eat crunchy food to. Drown it out, compensate the sound. Yeah, that's something I've heard many people do.

[00:07:42] Adeel: Yeah. It's the mimicking is done. Yeah. A little sometimes to drown it out. But most often the mimicking is done. Even if you're not like don't even have anything in your mouth just to try to copy what the other person is doing. And there's been some recent research that kind of maybe explains.

The mirror neurons are involved in being overactive while we're, and overly triggered while we're seeing somebody chew. And somehow if we make the same motion that it somehow helps us cope. It's early in the research there, but yeah. But then just straight up drowning out sounds with crunchiness is another way.

As well. Did you, how did you try to I was gonna ask did you ever try to articulate to them like, Hey it's I know you did, but I'm just curious if there, if you tried different ways to, to explain to them that this is a real problem. Maybe try to compare it to other mental health issues.

I don't know if those were even like, taken seriously over in.

[00:08:36] Tania: So I've never really tried. I think it's because they were so aggressive to work. Yeah. It must my, my, my coping mechanisms that I didn't even yeah, dare say anything to them. They knew something was loud, but they never asked.

They just assumed that it was an asshole . Yeah.

[00:08:53] Adeel: And then growing then as you got older, it became a teenager. Did that start to affect then, is that, Obviously you said you're starting to be more of an introvert, there's also, all lots of other changes and things that can happen between, parents and children as they're becoming teenagers.

Like how did that evolve? How did you miss funny evolve as you got older and maybe more re rebellious or just curious how that went when they're being so aggress. ,

[00:09:17] Tania: It got worse. I had many more triggers and then , my, my reactions would be also more I would just, sometimes I would just take my plate and go to my room to eat and they knew that there was no point telling me to, to stay.

[00:09:34] Adeel: Yeah. Cause at some point they can't force you, right? No. You're not eating your results forever, gotcha. And was there any, So what were the consequences of that in terms of did you get punished? Did you just, was there just a rift within the house?

[00:09:48] Tania: We just had a really bad relationship and we still do nowadays because of that.

[00:09:54] Adeel: Yeah. Yeah. Gotcha. Okay. You mean, do you talk to them at all in general or

[00:09:58] Tania: yeah, I do and I always go to Spain during Christmas, so yeah with my husband, which is interesting. Whenever I'm with them alone I, or before, before, before going to Spain with my husband, during Christmas, I was used to do my normal coping mechanisms, but then with my husband, it was awkward to behave the same way.

So I had to come up with. new stuff. And now whenever we eat all together, I have foam earplugs, which they don't know about, but my husband and I do. And that's been a lifesaver cuz they think I'm well, yeah. But the truth is that I've just found something that really helps be in the table.

Having to do without having to leave or having to put my fingers on my ears,

[00:10:51] Adeel: so right. , so yeah, so you could do the same, you could do those things maybe if you're, if it's just you and your parents. But it gets a weird, a bit weird when you run off and your husband's so alone and your parents something for everyone else.

Yeah. So you see your husband also wears phone plugs

[00:11:06] Tania: at. ? No. No, not my, okay. Not my husband. Okay. But he knows about my misophonia, so Yeah. Yeah. He knows that I'm always wearing either AirPods or phone earplugs. Sorry. Foam earplugs. Yeah.

[00:11:18] Adeel: Gotcha. Okay. Yeah, so you, yeah, you, you do the standard family stuff with your parents, but then it's not.

There's probably too much baggage in history and resentment maybe to like really, I don't know, get very, you're not suit that close basically, is what you're saying. What do you mean? There, there's some distance between your parents and yourself. Like it's you do the kind of the holiday stuff, but it's the kind of history that, you know of all that, all the reactions of.

taken a toll, sounds like on relationship a little bit.

[00:11:49] Tania: It has taken a toll, but at the same time it's hidden under the carpet. No one talks about it. Okay. Everyone pretends everything's fine.

[00:11:57] Adeel: Yeah. I see. I see. Okay. Gotcha. And then I guess when, so then when you left probably to go to college actually how was it affecting you in school?

You said it was very selective with. With your family members, did it affect you at school at all as you were growing up?

[00:12:13] Tania: No. No. Not at school. Not with my classmates and not in

[00:12:17] Adeel: college either.

[00:12:17] Tania: If someone was chewing in, in any lecture. Okay. Or maybe typing with a

[00:12:23] Adeel: computer. You said it's only the strangers don't bother you at all, but ha have any close friends and stuff, maybe af bothered you or maybe. you? No. Just Not at all. Okay. Okay.

[00:12:35] Tania: Interesting. The just people I live with.

[00:12:38] Adeel: Okay. Yeah. Gotcha.

[00:12:41] Tania: Which is sad.

[00:12:42] Adeel: Yeah. So then your husband's a, was it like when you met him, obviously you're not being triggered, but when did it start there when you signed the lease to your house or

[00:12:52] Tania: Yeah, when we moved in, yeah, maybe two or three months in after moving in. So we started realizing there were some triggers. Yeah.

[00:13:01] Adeel: So how did that go down then? Was it. , were you like, oh, no, . And then did you have to tell him, did you tell him right away or just try to hide it as much as possible?

[00:13:11] Tania: At first I thought, I was afraid this would happen. I thought it wouldn't, but then it happens. And and I was just that's my life. But then I didn't tell him anything for a while. But then once, so he, Whenever we are in bed maybe watching something and his face is really close to mine.

When he swallows, he makes a really loud noise. Yeah. So I used to imitate this sound, and so this went on for two years maybe. And at one point he asked me, so why do you swallow right after I swallow ?

[00:13:48] Adeel: Oh, he asked you that Out of the.

[00:13:49] Tania: Yeah. So I had to tell him, of course, and now he knows that I need to wear earplugs and Yeah.

[00:13:57] Adeel: Was, what was his reaction? What the hell did I get myself into? Or was it just oh, okay, sure. Or do what you need to do.

[00:14:06] Tania: He was just like , I know you, you're a little bit weird. So I, he wasn't surprised

[00:14:11] Adeel: At all. Gotcha. Okay. That sounds, yeah, that sounds could be a lot worse.

That sounds pretty good. If he'd be able to help you, help accommodate you to do simple things. Just wearing plugs and AirPods once in a while. is, it is, but is it also the visual trigger that's part of it for you? Are, do you get a lot of the visual triggers?

Oh yeah. Yeah. Yes.

[00:14:34] Tania: But those, so you must have to adjust

[00:14:36] Adeel: maybe when I was a little bit .

[00:14:39] Tania: Yeah. The, those started when I was maybe 15 or 16 months later. Yeah.

[00:14:45] Adeel: Gotcha. Okay. And so I guess, yeah, dated like in your house now. How are the, how mean, how are some of the ways that that you get by at living at your house with, with you, it's just your husband, right?

You don't have any kids? No kids? No, not yet. Gotcha. Okay. Okay. So yeah, is it, is you, is your kind of, your coping mechanisms day to day kind of stuff in your ears, whether it's plugs

[00:15:06] Tania: or. Yeah. Basically. And also he works from home as well. We are together every day, all day. So yeah. I need to do something about it.

I need to have something on my ears. Gotcha. Okay. Especially when we it, otherwise it's fine.

[00:15:25] Adeel: Yeah. And then when you're out in the world doing whatever, groceries or shopping or go to movies and maybe these are different stories sometimes, but, It's you're generally not triggered, right?

Cuz those are strangers. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And it's all human sounds, right? Human sounds, people you live with. It's not machine generated sounds or natural sounds or animals that, that bother you. Okay.

[00:15:46] Tania: So here's the thing. I think I have both misophonia and then sound sensitivity.

For example, let's say someone's using one of those, what are they called? Leaf flowers, yeah. Oh, yes. Yeah. So it's annoying, but it doesn't trigger me. And if I have to choose between someone eating and then listening to leaf flowers, then I prefer to list flowers. But of course it's annoying to have them right.

All day long outside.

[00:16:13] Adeel: . Yeah. At least lo has definitely come up a lot. And there's a , a wide spectrum from annoying to fullon rage with those things. Okay. And have you have you noticed any difference living in I guess not really if it's your, not really triggered as much by the outdoors, but any difference between Finland and Spain in terms of your trigger.

Or maybe even just like people's ability to understand sound sensitivities.

[00:16:36] Tania: I think the main difference would be that people in Finland are okay if you want to be or spend time alone. Or they are Okay. Understanding things related to mental health and ,

[00:16:50] Adeel: I guess we are being that far up north.

Yeah. Being that far up north, I think there's more darkness alone time and yeah, there's probably I think more potential mental health issues being Yeah. Isolated and in the cold and up north and in the dark. A lot of the, a lot of the year. Interesting. Okay. And yeah, now that you've graduated have you thought about what you want to.

Do going forward. And have you thought about like the effects of misophonia potentially on the type of work that you want to do? Because, in some cases when you're in full on in a career, it is, it can be like a marriage and you're living with these people that you're working with

Just, yeah, just something that made me think about.

[00:17:26] Tania: So you if my. is okay for me.

[00:17:30] Adeel: Yeah. Curious, like what, what's like your dream because you, I guess you're starting you're starting relatively early in your career. I'm wondering if you've made if you have like career dreams that maybe influenced at all by, by misophonia and obviously you're not gonna be a leaf blower , but.

. But yeah if you wanna be remote permanently, and if if you want sh curious if you want to veer towards certain careers versus others. Oh, I

[00:17:54] Tania: think the career path now, so working as a translator, it good for me. I can work from home. The only thing is that I would like to have my own office.

. So that's in the house. Yeah. Yeah. But that's all. Yeah. Okay. I don't think, I don't think I, I would improve anything actually.

[00:18:14] Adeel: Do you have to do you ever have to like, listen to audio of people talking to the translation? Or is it just thought text translation? Cause I have heard of some people needing to do translations, but then they have to listen to people talking and sometimes that can be a trigger.

[00:18:32] Tania: So I do both text translation, but also I do movie subtitles, but it doesn't bother me at all.

[00:18:40] Adeel: Ah, okay. That's good. Again, probably, they're strangers on the screen, yeah. Interesting. Okay. Okay. And have you thought about seeing a professional, maybe a. Considering therapy for misophonia or any of the kind of related issues, or you feel like it's relatively manageable if it's limited to people that you live with?

[00:19:02] Tania: I thought about you, you seeking help because as well as Ms. California, I was also diagnosed some years ago with O C D. , , but it's not if I were to seek help, it's not only because I have misophonia, but also I feel like I have some kind of trauma from my past with my parents, which I have to heal.

[00:19:24] Adeel: And is that, so the trauma primarily that, all that the aggressive nature with which they treated your misophonia or were there any kind of other issues as.

[00:19:35] Tania: Yeah, exactly. The fact that they treated me so aggressively because of my meso. Yeah. Yeah. And

[00:19:42] Adeel: before b, before they did that, it must have been, it was just totally idyllic childhood.

There wasn't really any other issues going on or stresses. ?

[00:19:50] Tania: No. Not that I remem remember of, yeah. I think the whole thing was fine.

[00:19:54] Adeel: Yeah. Yeah. And you were all living in the same place. Did you move around a lot at all, or is just like this nor totally normal house growing up.

You were born , started to go to school, birthdays, all the usual stuff. Nothing.

[00:20:06] Tania: Yeah. Everything was normal.

[00:20:08] Adeel: Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. And then there's that it was the drinking water. That within a few days things happened. Did you, do you remember also if do you know if looking back at your parents, if they ever exhibited any misophonia?

There's sometimes I hear of people seeing it in their own parents and maybe it being some weird way of, they're just reacting in a weird way cuz maybe they don't understand their own ,

[00:20:33] Tania: maybe my mom would react quite angrily at something my grandpa did. , just this one specific sound.

And something I found interesting is that she so I, once I asked her, so why do you get to react angrily at this sound? But then something like covering my ears is a no-no to you. when my dad makes some sound, so that's something they find really interesting that she would yell at my grandpa for making some sound, but then something so innocent of covering my ears.

I wasn't shouting at them or anything was really bad to

[00:21:11] Adeel: them. Yeah. What what did she say? I'm very, .

[00:21:17] Tania: Oh, nothing. She would just pretend that I didn't ask anything. Oh, .

[00:21:21] Adeel: Oh. You, oh, she'd pretend you didn't you didn't say anything. You, but you did actually ask and you were just yeah.

Wow. Yeah that's really in interesting tidbit there. Maybe she's, maybe she has some issue, although it doesn't explain anything about your dad's your dad's behavior, but, . Yeah. Very interesting. When did you find out that it had a name? That it's a real thing?

[00:21:40] Tania: In 2014? Yeah.

, I was I Googled I hate the sound of people eating or something like that. Yeah. But then it

[00:21:47] Adeel: came up. Yeah. Yeah. And how did that feel?

[00:21:53] Tania: because I thought it was the only

[00:21:54] Adeel: one. Have you have you since then have you met any other MyPhone either online or in person?

[00:22:01] Tania: Oh, no. This is actually the first time I'm talking to someone who also has misophonia and it I just realized right now, yeah, it feels really weird.

[00:22:11] Adeel: Yeah. You're not the only one. It's you who's come on and said that they're, yeah. This is the first time we've talked about it out loud. Outside of obviously your family and so yeah. I hope you meet more people cuz I think us coping, us talking about it and honestly joking about it, laughing about it is a way to to help cope and.

And yeah, I hope this helps and yeah, I hope maybe you can find other people in Scandinavia, , and Finland, that, that might also have it. I'm sure there are. Yeah that's really interesting. Yeah. Maybe you were maybe 40, 45 minutes into it.

Do you anything else you want to share with people about. Yeah. Your experience growing up and now with schizophrenia, this is, yeah, first time you talked about it, but now you have this big audience of people who, honestly, a lot are probably, like you listening, never talked about it.

So

[00:23:00] Tania: mostly my goal today was to set an example on how not to behave if your child has misophonia, I really. Some parents who's listening this as a child with misophonia cannot learn that it's not it's not our fault if the child is misbehaving, it's not because they are an asshole.

They might have some issues. Yeah I hope that with this I can help children in some. Absolutely. But I dunno. Yeah.

[00:23:32] Adeel: I don't, I can tell you absolutely. That's, this is a big issue. This is a big question that comes up with parents who have kids parents who might wanna have kids and don't know if they'll get it or if they'll also, if they'll trigger the parent.

So no, this is gonna help a lot and it's a very strong warning to people. Strong suggestion to people to please take it seriously cuz the. It's just cruel. And the effects that it will have on a child is traumatic and no, no child should have to deal with what, what, you went through 'em.

Sorry. You had to had to deal with that. Did you ever have, did you have cousins as well? I know you didn't have brothers or sisters. I'm curious if you had anyone your age and your family.

[00:24:10] Tania: I was the older, the oldest cousin. Yeah. Yeah. But they did not trigger me.

[00:24:16] Adeel: Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. And you were never did they know that you had sensitivities?

My cousins? Yeah. No. No. Okay. So you kept it pretty well hidden and it was just yeah. What you dealt with at home with your parents? . Yeah. Tell, but your parents are

[00:24:34] Tania: very, now that I think of it maybe they did that. I had some sensitivities. Cause I remember whenever there was some bigger family gathering, cause I felt ashamed covering my ears.

My mom would always yell, making sure everyone would hear, okay, so now you're not covering your ears. And then everyone would think, okay, what was that? , oh, really?

[00:24:57] Adeel: Yeah. I was gonna ask

[00:24:58] Tania: Maybe they need a little bit, I don't know.

[00:25:01] Adeel: Yeah. Yeah. That was gonna be my next question was like, in a larger family gathering, did your parents try to did your parents tell anybody about it or make a scene about it?

So they, your mom would say, would point out that you're covering your ears or laugh when you're not covering your.

[00:25:17] Tania: Exactly. She would point out that I was not covering my ears then. Oh

[00:25:21] Adeel: God. So it's not just that we were being triggered, it's when you were just trying to be normal and then she would make a joke about it.

Oh no, that's, yeah. That's terrible. It's, this is, yeah. You touched on, a, what a lot of us feel is a lot of shame and embarrassment cuz we often are just, we're just we don't need jar. Even without our parents mocking us, we're just confuse ourselves. That must I don't want to like dwell on it.

But that must have just been just super shame. Must have felt super ashamed and guilty maybe, or or just ashamed more maybe about about what you were going through. Constantly being embarrassed. Yeah.

[00:25:57] Tania: They made me feel ashamed, but at the same time I. So I think they thought I or at least my dad thought I hated him.

He okay. Maybe he thought, okay, if he ha, if he hates the way I eat that's because he hates me. So that made so his own insecurities maybe make him react in that aggressive.

[00:26:20] Adeel: It's just weird cause you sat there, everything was so normal before eight. It would be weird as a dad to just be oh, suddenly my daughter hates me.

An over one little thing. Yeah, that's a weird jump to make. But yeah, it's someone who someone mocks kids about their own kid about sound sensitivities. I'm not gonna try to predict what they think , but but were they otherwise Caring parents, like obviously took care of you ex.

Was it just this one thing that would just always be between the wedge between you between you two? ,

[00:26:49] Tania: I would say they were caring, but also they were also aggressive, in non, in many other ways. So they always had this non necessarily aggressive way of communicating, not only Okay, regarding Mr.

Oron, but just other things,

[00:27:04] Adeel: Were they very strict parents, maybe, or tough on you in.

[00:27:11] Tania: I think they were, but nowadays they claim they weren't. I remember last la, last Christmas I was telling them how I felt when they, when let's say I didn't do as well as they hoped in an exam Yeah.

At school. So they were really mad at me and I got headaches from their. madness in a way. Yeah. And I was telling them that it felt really bad and they, their reply was, oh, but we didn't really care about your grades, .

[00:27:40] Adeel: Okay. Yeah. Denial. Yeah. In denial. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. It seems to be like a pattern of just wanting to hide stuff and be in denial.

Maybe. Interesting. Did you ever, did you have any other outlets, like artistic outlets? I'm just curious if you just retreated within yourself or whether, maybe it came out and did you do any writing or art to try to express how you were feeling?

[00:28:02] Tania: I used to play the piano on the guitar and I used to try to make some songs, but no, not.

[00:28:10] Adeel: So did you ever write any songs specifically maybe about misophonia or just no. , yeah.

[00:28:15] Tania: No.

[00:28:17] Adeel: Gotcha. Yeah. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Yeah, Tanya. Yeah. It's been yeah. Fascinating. Yeah, I'm glad I'm, first of all, I'm glad you're not, your child's self anymore, and hopefully now you're more independent and have more agency to.

You have more experience now and are able to manage it a bit better, even though your husband's triggering you, but hopefully that hopefully you're able to manage that. Yeah. Any kind of last words that you want that you wanna share? Your message to parents is super important that I feel like I wanna frame that.

[00:28:44] Tania: Yeah. Yeah. Especially, yeah. My message is basically parents, To be able to understand their children. Yeah. Yeah. I would like to say thank you to you for doing this podcast. It's been really interesting hearing what other people have to say. And through that I have also learned about my own misophonia.

So I think it's really important that we all share our story and then, , we can learn more about ourselves.

[00:29:16] Adeel: Yeah, I agree. It's powerful for me to hear these stories. Powerful for everyone. And yeah. I'm glad that, yeah, I'm just humbled and glad that, someone who went through what you went through was able to come on and talk about it for the first time.

That means everything right there. So thank you. And yeah, thanks again for coming on. Thank you. Thank you. Again, really glad you shared your story and humbled to give you an. Four really important messages here. If you like this episode, don't forget to leave a quick review or just hit the five stars wherever you listen to this podcast.

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