Jeff happens to be in a nearby city just to the east of me, in the neighboring state of Wisconsin. We talk about misophonia and OCD, his environment growing up with a tough-love dad and younger brother who bore the brunt of many of Jeff’s reactions. We talk about some of his past relationships as well as how he manages miso these days with a very supportive wife and three young kids at home. We also talk about how he has been able to advocate for himself at his current job, and we even get some George Costanza references toward the end.